on Jul 30, 2009 @ 03:39 pm|
If you get to rewrite the ending, how would you end it? Would you want to see Ellen give up her life with Andy to be with Leo?
I think I liked the way this story end. Leo had his chance with Ellen and he screwed up. It took him 2 years to realize Ellen, TWO years...!! Does he really love Ellen or does he love the idea of Ellen?
Andy, on the other hand, truly loved Ellen. I think he neglected her after their move to Atlanta but that wasn't entirely his fault. Ellen wasn't exacty honest about her feelings on their new life either. But I never doubt Andy's love for his wife or the fact that he intended to be with her forever.
Ellen had made the right choice to go back to Andy. However, I wish the story didn't end so neat and tidy, like nothing ever happened between Andy and Ellen. This fairy tale ending just didn't seem realistic...
|good point on Jul 30, 2009 @ 03:52 pm|
I agree. I am happy that Ellen stayed with Andy, and thrilled that he was able to look past what happened (although, as someone commented in another thread, we never knew how much she confessed). I think there aren't enough love stories about forgiveness - much of the time couples decide to part ways because it's easier and they can't see a way to forgive and move on.
However, the neat 'n tidy ending does make you wonder. This is classic Giffin, though, and I'm sure it's hard to write chicklit that doesn't have a happy ending. Kind of makes it a downer and that's not the point. I think she did leave it open enough though that the reader may imagine that they worked through some messy stuff. I have to mentally compare it to I'll Have Who She's Having, where you get the feeling that all was forgiven and forgotten. I think Giffin did a better job with this.
I have to also say that I place the bulk of the blame on Ellen's shoulders. Andy gave her several chances to make her feelings known and she always reassured him that it was okay. I can hardly fault him for being an eternal optimist, family guy and perhaps just a little clueless. Not that I'm saying he's 100% in the clear, but I think it was much more her problem than his.
|kind of..... on Jul 30, 2009 @ 10:05 pm|
I guess I am okay with the fact that Ellen stayed with her husband but
I have to also say that Andy did neglect Ellen when they moved to
Atlanta. He was so ignorant and oblivious to things she was feeling
and going through...and to me, that is so DISRESPECTFUL. The bond
between a husband and wife is so important...I am disappointed that
Andy wouldn't see or even think to have more of a discussion with Ellen
about her just picking up her life and going....
While Ellen should have stood her ground more and was overall, a fairly
'weak' character, I feel like Andy should have been less selfish.
|I love the fact that Ellen stayed with Andy, on Jul 30, 2009 @ 10:29 pm|
however, them living apart seemed a little too farfetched in my mind. I would have loved for them to pick a place and make it work there, together. I don't ever think it would have worked for her and Leo because Leo does nothing for Ellen. He doesn't better her in any way whereas Andy made her feel like a grown-up, beautiful and intelligent woman. Although they have had their hard times and Andy isn;t perfect either (men often don't see when a woman is obviously sad and hurting). I don't think he was being selfish as he was never outwardly rude or hurtful to Ellen, I just think that Andy's character is painfully human and male. Ellen is just like a lot of girls, I too often need help making decisions or do things that put my friends and family before me and I too often struggle with past relationships and old friendships.
I guess for me this kinda hits a little spot in me where I have been myself and I just love how it is so easy to be irritated at the characters just like you do your friends and family at home. It's like you have built a mini relationship with these characters.
|living apart on Jul 31, 2009 @ 04:17 pm|
oh! that living apart thing was weird for me too. thanks for reminding me misslissa. in my opinion, them living apart isn't solving the problem, it's just postponing it. there are issues in their relationship and those issues can easily be overlooked or ignored when you are not seeing that person everyday. i think when Ellen and Andy finally live together permanently again, those issues will surface and they will explode because they haven't learned to deal with them, they've only been ignoring them.
Ali de Bold
|My alternate ending on Jul 31, 2009 @ 11:21 pm|
Ellen doesn't leave for New York, Andy finds her at home in the morning, they make up (and make out), and Ellen tells Leo (via text message) he had his chance and have a nice life. Ellen and Andy either stay there and work it out, or they move back to New York together.
I don't think living apart long term is a good idea for any relationship. I don't like that Leo, who proved he didn't love Ellen as much as Andy, was able to get in the middle of a good relationship like that. Andy loved her and treated her properly from day 1. Leo still didn't know what he wanted long term - even as he was trying to take Ellen away from her marriage. I would have liked to see him end up the big loser, instead of Andy having his trust violated like that.
|ELLEN ANDY AND LEO on Aug 01, 2009 @ 01:34 pm|
I can see them traveling back and forth for work,at least for the time being.Eventually they would probably have to chose where to live. I think Andy loves ellen so deeply that he didn't want to risk their marriage by finding out what happened.It truly was a fairytale ending that did make it unrealistic,but that's ok,it's fiction.As for Leo,I would have loved to have learned that leo actually did eventually fall madly in love,commit to this woman and have been burned badly.Live by the sword,die by the sword.He deserves it.
|Hmm... on Aug 01, 2009 @ 01:45 pm|
I see Andy and Ellen working out their marriage and growing old together because they really care for each other. Because of Ellen's career, they decide to move back to New York but also keep their house in Atlanta (visits Atlanta at least once a month). Leo tries to make contact with her, but she handles the situation better. Ellen never really forgets Leo, but eventually lets him go for the sake of her marriage. They have kids (I'm thinking 2 max) in the next 5-6 years and lives in a normal stable life.
|Only way it could have ended given the tone of the book on Aug 04, 2009 @ 11:06 am|
I think this was the only way the author could have ended it neatly, to
have a happy compromise between Ellen's career and preferred locale,
and their life in Atlanta. How convenient that they are rich so they
can afford all those flights. Of course, she can't keep up that travel
forever... and once they have children she will have to make another
I think we all have a Leo in our past, and it was a neat journey to see
how a possible "what if" would turn out. In real life, of course, it
would not have been so carefully packaged at the end. But this was a
great, quick, on the beach read and hit the spot.
|agree on Aug 04, 2009 @ 12:35 pm|
I also like the ending in the fact that Ellen stayed with Andy and that he gave her the chance to stay with him after what she did to him. But...I don't think that he could forgive so quick and easily...and we needed or I needed to see that part also.
|she should be single on Aug 05, 2009 @ 01:52 am|
the best ending would be for ellen to end up with neither guy. neither was right for her. she still needed to grow up more. actually, id have her say no to leo and then have andy dump her. if she did have to have a "happy ending" then maybe go with leo, find out that was all wrong, then maybe five or ten years later, get back with andy (because at first he would have moved on). i dunno. but i still like my first version better lol.