Ali de Bold
on Dec 03, 2008 @ 04:40 pm|
I'm curious to know what you all think about all of this nonsense going on in Gov't right now? For those of you in the USA, you've probably heard nothing about this since we are much more fascinated in your politics than vice versa but what is happening is that our minority elected Conservative gov't caused an uproar with some of their initial planning such as cutting funding to all parties, which would render all opposition parties pretty much broke (apparently). So the opposition (NDP, Liberal) with support from the Bloc (seperatist party only interested in Quebec) has been rumbling about joining forces to overthrow the Conservatives.
I am not a political junkie and my knowledge is very limited so take what I say with a grain of salt but I think:
1. The Bloc should butt out. There is no other party that represents the interests of only one province and so I find them offensive and unCanadian to begin with.
2. Conservatives should not have suggested pulling all party funding. They have the most money so would be the least affected by this strategy and who wouldn't fight back in that scenario? Were they hoping this would happen? Surely they couldn't have been that short-sighted.
3. Overthrowing the elected government is undemocratic and I would be very disappointed as a Canadian voter to see that happen.
What do you think? Also, if I have misinterpreted, please feel free to correct as I am still trying to figure this out for myself.
|they are all playing games on Dec 03, 2008 @ 10:05 pm|
It's funny that I come across this post right now b/c my hubby just spent 30 min explaining to me this mess we call our government.
From what I understand, I think they are all playing games and in the end, the winner will go to who can play this game best. I agree with MC that this is a bit undemocratic to overthrow a government; however, Harper has paved his own road to this situation (what's that saying again? I forget.) and the rest of the government is just tired of being bullied by Harper. The way Harper was conducting business is no different from a dictatorship. In my opinion, he bluffed (that no one would want to go through another election) and the other parties called him on it.
Perhaps I'm being naive in believing there is potentially a brighter future for the Canadian government. While a coup is undemocratic, isn't having all the other parties working together a good thing...well, potentially anyway, assuming they can really set their differences aside? If 3 parties can work together, isn't that better than having all 4 parties working against each other? Each party has something important to offer our country because they each focus on different aspects of our society. Maybe having a super party with all these combined ideas is a good thing.
As I said, perhaps I'm being very naive. If such cooperation is possible, it probably would've happened by now, right?
Ali de Bold
|cooperation of parties on Dec 03, 2008 @ 10:10 pm|
I think cooperation is good to a point. Having all of these parties joining forces can be a double edged sword because the point isn't for them all to be the same but to represent the diversity in Canada. If someone voted for an NDP candidate, they expect that person to behave like an NDP, etc.
|I don't think I'll like the outcome of a coalition government on Dec 04, 2008 @ 08:26 pm|
I had this out nicely a typed out but forgot to log in so this is the short version of what I wrote:
I think we should give the conservative a chance and judge them on the budget in Jan. I don't see how 3 parties with vastly different ideals can work out their difference, we will either have to head to the poll soon anyways or they will say yes to each other in an effort to keep this going that they will do things not in the best interest of Canadian. Last but not least I live in Alberta, there would be no representation for us plus NDP is going to tax the oil/gas industries to death which will definitely drag Alberta down.
As nice of a man as I think Dion is, I do not think his a great leader and I really feel like making a coalition deal with the bloc is like making a deal with the devil. I don't mean they are evil, I just do not like the idea of Quebec separation
|Hmmm on Dec 06, 2008 @ 01:14 pm|
I just came back from a third world country where this sort of thing happens all the time and is somewhat expected. I do not, however, expect it from a leading country like Canada. I think it is petty and un-democratic, and it is quite frankly embarrassing.
I also feel that canadians do not care enough about their country/government. In third world countries people rush out to vote, so thankful that they are allowed. We are more engrossed with American politics than with our own, which is alarming. I think we should adopt a policy like Belgium that requires every adult of voting age/ability to cast a vote. We wouldn't be in the pickle we are in now if such a policy existed. I feel strongly that if you don't vote, you have no right to complain or even comment on the events taking place, because it is the fault of non-voters that we have a minority government. I know people feel they don't have enough political knowledge, or that they are all the same in parliament hill, but hey - I have no clue what goes on in this country, but i still vote because some very hard working women fought for my right, and people concerned with equality fought for the rights of minorities. You would think as a multicultural nation we would be more appreciative and cast our votes, but sadly this isn't the case.
I agree with Miss Chickie, a separatist party has no place allying with other parties. I do believe this is very bad behavior on the parties involved. Even though I did not vote for the government in power I still respect the fact that most of the people who voted wanted this party to represent them.
Shame on them!