on Oct 14, 2011 @ 09:27 am|
Nicolette Taylor is a 13 year old girl from Long Island, she was a former child model but after breaking her nose twice, she developed a large bump. She started getting teased at school and even online. Kids would leave messages on her facebook wall etc. So, her parents decided to allow her and to pay for plastic surgery.
Her parents equate this to buying braces for her. What do you think- is it too young? Should teens or pre-teens ever be allowed to get plastic surgery? Would you allow your child to get surgery?
Ali de Bold
|Yes on Oct 14, 2011 @ 09:31 am|
I think in this case it's fine. Kids can be so awfully cruel. Yes, plastic surgery is much more invasive than braces but now the bullies can leave her alone. I don't think it's a good idea for someone this young in general to go under the knife - especially for frivolous reasons like a boob job, but if her nose was damaged and it made it so she was being made fun of, I can understand her parents wanting to spare her from that.
|agree on Oct 14, 2011 @ 10:24 am|
I agree - I think this is a case where it WAS in her best interests to have the procedure done. On the much more extreme end of the spectrum, it's like Extreme Makeover, when some of the people have fairly severe issues that "need correcting" because they markedly affect that person's quality of life in a negative way.
What I love about this is that they kept her nose looking natural - all they seem to have done is remove the bump. There doesn't appear to be any shortening of the nose which would have pointed at unnecessary vanity. The finished product doesn't drastically affect her look which makes it so much more natural.
Someone's gotta tell her to lay off the self-tanner though (sorry, had to go there!)
|... on Oct 14, 2011 @ 10:27 am|
This is letter of the two evils I guess. Bullying can really mess up a girls self esteem, or worse! So by fixing the look of her twice broken nose, her parents saved her a lot of heart ache.
But one part of me (a large part of me) just wants to scream: I can have a 3rd arm, but what gives YOU the right to make me feel bad and bully me about it!?!? It's just not fair :( Bullying should have a large penalty. Something severe, like 1 complaint = parents get called & student gets suspended, and 2 complaints = expulsion with the incident going onto their permanent record. It needs to be hammered into them that ABUSE in ANY form is NOT acceptable.
From my experience with bullies, when they're set on you, they'll bully you no matter what. I wouldn't be surprised if she now gets bullied 'cuz she had a nose job.
|true! on Oct 14, 2011 @ 10:33 am|
"From my experience with bullies, when they're set on you, they'll bully you no matter what. I wouldn't be surprised if she now gets bullied 'cuz she had a nose job."
Great point, Becky! Yes, somehow we have to have a better solution to bullying. The schools' hands are tied to some degree because permanent record and expulsion could potentially lead to some kids never finishing school or perhaps retaliation; other measures may be outright opposed by the school board or parents associations, maybe even the law.
I think the onus is on parents to raise respectful, empathetic kids - most ideally in a stable family environment (good mother figure, good father figure, good interpersonal relationships, etc). I'm a parent and I know that's a task you can do your very best and still possibly fail.
|Nose jobs? on Oct 14, 2011 @ 01:32 pm|
I reaaaaallllly hope the parents sat down with her first and explained that how you look doesn't make you who you are. I know they wanted to prevent her from being bullied, but I don't want her to get older thinking she always has to be thin, tanned, and perfect in order to have a great life.
Some people are chubby when they are young, some are thin, some have big noses, some have tiny ones, some people have freckles, some dont. etc.
We're all different, and need to learn to accept those differences as individual traits that make us our own people.
I do understand that there was damage from her nose being broken twice, but the reasoning was simply cosmetic.
Perhaps her parents should have arranged a meeting with the school to discuss their daughters situation, and become involved more proactively rather than just "fixing" her physical "problem".
I guess I don't agree. I mean everyone has their flaws when they're 13, we haven't fully grown or developed, its kind of that akward stage in life, and I think its an important part to live through, because it makes you stronger ultimately, and is a big learning experience.
Although I do hope this helps this little girl with her bullying problems if this is the solution that they chose!
| on Oct 14, 2011 @ 03:54 pm|
I have a rather, hmm, "prominent" nose, I was never bullied about it in school and I never really had a bad bullying issue throughout school when I was younger. So, I can't really speak on those terms first hand, but what I can say is that when I was younger, had my parents offered to pay for a new nose for me and they were supporting me in this decision, I probably would have said "yes, please- get me a new nose!"
I understand what the parents said about it being just like braces. And while you could say that the parents were letting the bullies win or they were teaching her the wrong values, I don't think they see it like that at all. I think they see it as providing and protecting her. I just hope in a few years that she doesn't regret the decision. At 13, you aren't an adult, you don't know everything, but you think you do.
In any case, it is a sad day when a girl has to go to such extremes to avoid bullying.
|Whoa! on Oct 19, 2011 @ 07:11 pm|
Honestly, this is crazy! I could see her wanting to change her nose because it was broken when she was older (23 ), but at 13? That is just scary! (A "flawed" feature adds flair to a face anyways!)
I think that this is an example of how celebs and the media are seriously distorting the "pretty" image. Young girls should not turning to plastic surgery to give them the face of their dreams and quite frankly, their parent shouldn't be forking over the dough to pay for surgery either!
|I agree! on Oct 20, 2011 @ 08:37 am|
I agree with ali-de-bold and mamaluv. Personally, I also have a rather large nose and have been bullied for it in the past (I'm now 23), and next week I'm actually having rhinoplasty. I know first hand that bullying can have a huge effect on your self-esteem and on your actions as a result. I think that if she wanted to look and feel better about herself, then she did the right thing, but she - and no one else - should make the mistake of thinking that getting plastic surgery will suddenly make your whole life amazing. Yes, it can make you feel better about yourself and more confident in your appearance, which is great, but you need to be realistic about it.
One thing that does strike me as odd is that she qualified for the surgery at only 13. Most doctors will say that your nose needs to finish developing fully before you can change its appearance (which would be around age 15-16). Maybe she qualified because of the injury? Just a guess.
Anyways, it sucks that we live in a very looks-obsessed world, but for those of us who weren't born that lucky or have been injured, we're just doing what we need to get by.
|toughie on Oct 20, 2011 @ 10:01 am|
It's really interesting how many of you said that "irregular" features add character to a face. I think that is often true... but only when the irregularity is minor. I think about how Kirsten Dunst's slightly crooked teeth are endearing, or how Jennifer Grey's (from Dirty Dancing) popularity came way down after she got rhinoplasty (her natural nose was not that bad at all).
When the situation is extreme enough, bullied or not you will have self esteem issues. I was not bullied but I was teased quite a bit about my crooked teeth. My parents paid for braces and my straight teeth definitely increased my confidence in a huge way. Back then, only kids with very crooked teeth or severe bite problems got braces. These days it's "cool" to have braces - or so my daughter tells me. Really, how is braces all that different from any other cosmetic procedure? Sure, it's less invasive, but it's still painful and until your wisdom teeth come in, your smile will continue to change.
|hmm on Nov 08, 2011 @ 01:45 pm|
Well her nose was broken twice, it would have been interesting to see what her nose like pre the two accidents.
In this situation I don`t feel that plastic surgery was entirely uncalled her. I`ve never had a broken nose but my assumption is that if it isn't reset properly it can heal crooked or, perhaps like her, with a bump.
Putting myself in her shoes, if I broke my nose and it healed very different from my original nose I would definitely consider surgery if I didn't feel my nose suited me anymore. I think it`s even worse that she was bullied because of what her nose looked like. I can imagine she didn't like what happened to her nose after the accidents but compounded with bullying it just made it worse.
Arguably she is very young to be having surgery that is cosmetic and I feel she should have waited until she was older, after she`s finish growing. I have a feeling she wanted to fix her nose already and the bullying just exacerbated her "need" for it.