Jian Gomeshi Trial


prettyrainbow
on Feb 11, 2016 @ 10:04 pm

For those of you who have been following the Jian Gomeshi trial, especially this past week, you know that the witnesses have spoken and there now seems to be a contradiction in their testimony in regards to his rough, sexual treatment of women. In addition, it's been found that the women who have accused him of the sexual assault, had all been communicating with each other over texts before and after the trial, which to some may seem as a way to try to set him up. Apart from this, one or more of the women tried to get back in a relationship with him after they claimed to have been assaulted by him and because of this, the defense is saying that their story isn't as credible anymore.

The question is, do you think he will still be charged with a crime or will they find him innocent and be let free? Do you think he was set up or not? Should the fact that they went back to him be taken into account?

 

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charbella2
. on Feb 11, 2016 @ 10:33 pm

I find a lot of stuff the women are saying are a little fishy. They claim he abused them yet they still flirt and communicate with him. I do think he is guilty though and will be convicted. We will see though!
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piercedkiss
. on Feb 11, 2016 @ 10:56 pm

I don't know. It all sounds too... rehearsed to me. I don't think that he should be charged with what he is being charged with. From what is being said now, that one of the women still wanted to be in a relationship with him afterwards.

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prettyrainbow
charbella on Feb 11, 2016 @ 11:47 pm

That's what I was thinking also. Something doesn't add up. If they were so traumatized by his actions, then I don't see why they pursued him further, especially since they didn't really have a strong emotional connection to him to begin with. I can understand how difficult it can be for some women to leave an abusive man after years they've been with him, but from what I've read, and heard reported on tv, they weren't really dating all that long.
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prettyrainbow
piercedkiss on Feb 11, 2016 @ 11:53 pm

Initially I thought he should have been charged, but after these past few days, with the contradictions in the women's testimonies, I'm just not sure anymore. If they do charge him, it'll probably be to make an example out of him. However, I do think the women should also be held in contempt of court since they apparently retracted some of their initial answers and now somehow don't remember having said certain things to the police. Not to mention that they came forward 10 years after the fact. I don't think events are as clear in one's mind 10 years after it happened.
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piercedkiss
. on Feb 12, 2016 @ 12:38 am

I agree.


I do understand that people have their own fetishes. And that's okay. And if both sides were okay with what was agreed on beforehand.. Awesome. But if he is going to push their limits that's not okay.

Why it took 10 years, I don't know. 10 years ago.. I couldn't remember what I was doing, or saying, or with whom. But I also wasn't with someone who was a dominant man like they claim him to be. And with this trial, I am more interested in what he has to say, because he has been pretty quiet during it all.

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prettyrainbow
. on Feb 12, 2016 @ 01:05 am

He won't be testifying, so we'll never know his side of the story. I do understand that if he was as dominant and aggressive as they claim, they will remember facts about the events that happened. However, from a psychological standpoint, 10 years is a long time for someone to have every detail correct. It's been researched that people who witness a crime either first or second hand cannot get all of the details correct even if it happened recently, so imagine 10 years.
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piercedkiss
. on Feb 12, 2016 @ 01:27 am

I agree.

A dominant man will be remembered.

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xBrittany
Victim Blaming Galore, but also Court of Public Convictions... on Feb 17, 2016 @ 09:54 pm

In regards to statements like "Well, why'd it take them so long?". Let's look at some stats...
1) Approximately, out of every 100 rapes, 32 get reported, 7 lead to arrests, 2 convicted spend some time in prison. The rest walk free.
2) "In the most recent Statistics Canada of survey of victimization, 472,000 women self-reported a sexual assault. There were 1,610 guilty verdicts in sexual assault cases for 2011/12."


I think, given the information we have above, it is understandable why people wait so long to report, or don't at all...especially when someone is a public figure and has access to expensive lawyers.

As for the "fishy" parts... The abuser abuses, but the victim feels an obligation to them, perhaps to gain some "approval" or validation. It's a thing. Even if they barely know the guy.

Lots of victim blaming and doubting in the court of public opinion, but a lot of people already decided he was guilty before court even started. Guess we'll see what is "decided" by the court of law now. I am leaning towards guilty, but there IS reasonable doubt - it's true.

Unrelated: according to my friends who have met him or served him, the guy's a total jerk.
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brooklingal77
Victims on Feb 17, 2016 @ 11:26 pm

Well said Brittany.
I believe that these women were victims.

Friends that know him, have nothing positive to say.
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prettyrainbow
xBrittany on Feb 18, 2016 @ 02:57 am

Those statistics are certainly troubling, especially in today's day and age. It goes to show that the justice system needs improvement in the ways they are handling these cases and in the way they offer protection to the victims. If life were perfect, all guilty abusers would be convicted of their crimes. This is only going to happen once victims feel like they have the support and power to come forward.

I wasn't by any means trying to discredit the victims by asking why it took 10 years for this trial to happen. I was thinking from a psychological standpoint. Details will change or fade away with time and it's even possible to invent new information, without the intention to do so. That's why I feel better policies and laws should be in place in order to help and encourage victims to speak out sooner and see justice served.

It also serves to protect those who are wrongfully accused of such crimes, which has happened before. I hope the judge reviews the case accurately and makes the right decision.


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