Not Christmas...Holidays???


slaroche
on Dec 06, 2011 @ 09:03 pm

What do you think about the debate going on in regards to out Holiday, called Christmas?  We are being asked to stop calling the holiday Christmas, but call it, "The Holidays".  This is because of the different belief systems in Canada (which is great, it is what makes us a great country), such as Hanauka.  I personally think Christmas is Christmas and has been for so long.  I believe we should call it what we believe it is.  Your opinon please.
 

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Suelyn
Peace.. on Dec 06, 2011 @ 11:11 pm

Agree with you.
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takoda
I agree on Dec 07, 2011 @ 07:33 am

I don't want to offend anyone here, but asking me to stop calling
Christmas Christmas just isn't right. I wouldn't dream of moving to
another country and asking that country to stop call one of their
holidays by the only name its bin know as to some thing else just to
suit me. Their holidays have bin theirs for centuries and should stay
that way, just as ours should remain called what they have bin as well. I
love that Canada is made up of so many different cultures and we all
should be aloud to celebrate the way we wish to, that's why we are a
free country and why most of the different cultures came to Canada to
begin with because we are free. If our holidays offend people that much
then maybe they should move some where else where they aren't offended.
Its not fair to any of us to have people move to Canada and start
demanding we change what we've known and what our country has bin built
on just to suit them. Sorry if this up sets anyone, but you asked and
that's how I feel. Peace to all!!

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mamaluv
Call it what it is... on Dec 07, 2011 @ 09:28 am

For right or for wrong, December 25 is a celebration of the Christ Mass - it IS Christmas. Due to the variation in the Jewish calendar, Hanukkah falls on a different day every year (except for when the dates sync up again, of course). Kwanzaa begins on December 26, and I know there are other festivals around this same time in different faiths (sorry - the names are escaping me at the moment!).

It makes sense to refer to the entire month of December as "the holidays", but the fact is that it is "Christmas" to most people in the West (which is what we're really talking about - in other parts of the world, this issue is moot), whether you are a Christian, person of another faith, or an atheist/non-believer.

I don't mind when someone wishes me Happy Holidays, but I don't want anyone to get their gitch in a knot if I wish them a Merry Christmas. For goodness sakes, it's the well wishes that count here. I'm not trying to force my religion on anyone any more than a Jewish person wishing me a Happy Hanukkah would. I would simply accept their well wishes with thanks and take no offense whatsoever.

Now, deliberately trying to EXCLUDE Christmas from the "Holiday" is I believe an attack on a huge group of people for whom the day holds special significance.

I wish people would stop being so sensitive and take a chill pill. Sheesh. Of course I know that all of our Chicks here are much more open minded and tolerant :)
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Anonymous
yup... on Dec 07, 2011 @ 10:37 am

Completely agree with mamaluv and slaroche: call it what it is. Canada is for everyone, we need to acknowledge and celebrate our unique cultures and religions. Canada isn't run on theocracy, we have the freedom God gave us and we Canadians have upheld celebrate each of our beliefs without censure.

To those who feel that "we Christians came here first so if you immigrants want to come to our free country 'cuz its free, then don't be comin' and changin' the way we've always done things, and if you don't like it you should move". I don't think that attitude is the way to go either. Canada was a country long before the Christians (or Jews, or Hindus, etc) got here, so no need for that sort of attitude. That's not a very "tolerant" attitude at all.

Canada and Canadians believe in freedom, which includes freedom to celebrate whatever holiday each of us believes in. It makes sense to have the days around xmas off just 'cuz it falls consistently on the same day every year: Dec 25. As opposed to Hanukkah for example which changes. No one is stopping each of us from taking days off work / school on our own holidays, if it falls on another date.

No one's calling Hanukkah by any other name, so why should anyone call Christmas by any other name? Call it what it is! I don't think calling something by it's actual name should offend anyone, regardless of what they believe in. If we can call Diwali "diwali" then why can't we call Christmas "christmas"? So weird!

I especially love what mamaluv said, it makes sense to refer to the entire month of December as the holidays because so many holidays fall in this month, but christmas day is christmas day, and someone wishing you joy and happiness, regardless of the occasion, should not be cause for offense. Take the well wish for what it is, be happy and thankful someone's sending good wishes and thoughts your way, and don't over think it.
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Aliza
Happy 'whateveryoucelebrate' on Dec 07, 2011 @ 10:43 am

People call call which ever holiday they tie to their religious beliefs what they want, Hanukkah, Christmas, Kwanzaa etc.

When someone wishes me a Merry Christmas, Happy Kwanzaa, Happy Hanukkah etc I don't get mad, I usually say the same back to them as it's their own belief. Just because I say Happy Hanukkah to someone doesn't mean I believe less in my own faith. It's just a sign of acceptance and respect on beliefs.
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Ali de Bold
I agree on Dec 07, 2011 @ 12:02 pm

No other holiday is expected to change it's name, so why Christmas?
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luxx
Unfair on Dec 07, 2011 @ 05:36 pm

I agree, we shouldn't have to change what we celebrate to accommodate other cultures. I'm happy to live in a country that is accepting of all people, but Canada shouldn't give up it's traditions. I really think it's unfair, because,as others pointed out, if i were to move to another country they wouldn't completely change there traditions and beliefs to accommodate us. I find it really strange, has anyone actually ever gotten upset over being wished a Merry Christmas? And if they did, well you're in Canada, if you don't like it, then don't live here. I'm really disappointed that it has gone so far, I wish we could just go back and reclaim Christmas! I also don't think saying so makes me racist.
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TashaCat
Its gone too far... on Dec 08, 2011 @ 08:24 am

You chicks are uber-sensible. I really loved the opinions on this. For a few years, I put 'happy holidays' on everything. About 2 years ago, I stopped. I now say Merry Christmas... and I mean it as a good wish to anyone of any faith. I also celebrate Yule and Solstice, but I don't get offended when someone doesn't know what that is or wish me for those days. I am happy to wish anyone of any faith for their holidays... but Christ's Mass was on December 25 for a very long time. It is an established holiday in Canada - a part of our heritage, history and culture. Hats off to my friends of many cultures who really get this.
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Becky
agreed! on Dec 08, 2011 @ 12:04 pm

If someone doesn't like everyone to have the freedom to celebrate and enjoy their own cultures, religion and traditions, then I agree they shouldn't be here. It's not to say if you don't like xmas you shouldn't be here, rather if you don't like the idea that i can celebrate xmas, or hanukkah or whatever else I want, and call it by its name, then don't be here. Canada's not about Christmas vs Holiday vs Hanukkah vs whatever... Canada is about enjoying diversity and accepting and being respectful and happy towards others about their own celebrations.

Canada is a democratic country, and just like every other democratic country it belongs to everyone equally, regardless of our race, colour or beliefs.

I don't think wishing someone happiness is ever a bad thing, regardless of the occasion.

So I hope all you ladies are enjoying the joyous holiday season - regardless of which specific holiday you're celebrating - <3
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LadyChick234234
I really.... on Dec 08, 2011 @ 12:10 pm

....don't have an opinon either way.

I'm just thankful for the time off and the time to spend with friends and family.
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