on Feb 28, 2016 @ 01:50 am|
Wondering what others have to say regarding the federal governments announcement that beginning in the 2017/2018 school year that individuals from low income families will now have their tuition costs covered? Some critics believe that this will only increase or prolong good job availability and prospects. Also serve no benefit but actually worsen unemployment rates and those educated still won't be able to find work or positions within their field of study or continue the trend of underemployment.
|. on Feb 28, 2016 @ 09:41 am|
I didn't hear about this; I think there should be more scholarships to help cover tuition ... not just a free ride ...
|. on Feb 28, 2016 @ 11:16 am|
Define low income.
|. on Feb 28, 2016 @ 01:03 pm|
Yes, I'm with anonymous - what's the definition of low income? Lower Middle class to middle class is always getting shafted. Different tax bracket means you're not really further ahead than lower income!
When I'm 65 I'm planning on going to uni for free if the program still exists by then.
|Approx $$$ cost per yr for 1 inmate $175,000 on Feb 29, 2016 @ 04:39 am|
This backwards thinking must end.. Hows about handing these prisoners a bill upon release
And support our young law abiding youths who work hard and perserver so they can in turn become the high earning taxpayers of tomorrow whom will not only keep Canada strong and free but also be able to afford to send their own children/grandchildren to a post secondary institution all the while keeping the C.P.P and Old Age Pensions secure, funded and intact.
Hey baby girl. I hope that you are well. Mom just wanted to say how very proud I am of you. Watching you as you grow and blossom into the beautiful young woman who now is before me has been lifes greatest joy and I am blessed to have been the one chosen as your mother. I miss you so and want only the very best for you. I wish for you the moon and stars in life and just know that a University degree will further ensure that all you have envisioned come true. I want to apologize for not having the bank to pay for and fund your post secondary school education but you know I will help anyway I can. I am just so damn proud of you and hate that I was unable to offer you the world. Apparently the P.M. was so impressed with your perseverance that he has decided hard work and dedication should be rewarded. So watch your e-mail account for upcoming information because as you continue the journey towards the pursuit of excellence he is going to be sending you an little something to help cover the ever rising costs of tuition and its never ending additional fees, in lieu of the monies Canadians have saved because you stayed in school, out of jail and the maternity ward. Please continue to reach for the stars for your hard work and dedication will one day bring restoration to our home and native land so once again Canada can be GLORIOUS and FREE.
P.S. Miracle says Meow
|Greekbymarriage.. 65 and low income maybe should have worked harder on Feb 29, 2016 @ 05:53 am|
Now of course I was being sarcastic.. I am referring to the impoverish and low income youths the whom social class they have had no choice in. But if we support those young people whom have stayed strong despite negative influence and surroundings. Keeping focused while navigating the obstacles of circumstance by which they weren't given any say nor choice. If you work hard, that hard work should be rewarded, pardon me supported. That being said I would like ask Canadians would you rather spend your hard working dollars on giving criminals a free ride or a CHILD who worked and studied hard stayed in school and out of prisoner and maternity wards? How wonderful it would be for that child to know that despite their current circumstance that isn't the final destination. There is a light at the end of this tunnel and for some and their families ending generationals stuck in the tough social and economical cycles of abuse, poverty and neglect. We must strengthen and make great our country and economy again. Restoration of the family as a valued system.
|. on Feb 29, 2016 @ 10:13 am|
I believe by "low income" they mean families that make $50,000 or less a year would get free tuition and families that make <$80,000 will get about half off tuition.
|Awesome on Feb 29, 2016 @ 01:53 pm|
Shocked, but not quite surprised, by the amount of naysayers and individuals who are sour about this because they didn't receive the same opportunity. The world isn't fair. But this certainly is.
If you make more than 50k, tuition will be half-off - which is SIGNIFICANT and nothing to scoff at. The middle class is NOT getting shafted here. Besides, it's kind of difficult to argue that middle class struggle more than lower class... you may think you don't have as many tax breaks or this and that, but at least you don't have to worry about putting food on the table or sacrificing a utility service to pay for another bill.
Unis/Colleges are still going to be specific when choosing students, grades are still going to matter a lot, and a lot of effort is still required. The difference here is that now, those who can't afford to go to school can now. OSAP doesn't cover everything, and denies a large number of students for unfair/ridiculous reasons. If students are wishing to study in a different city (like I am), they will likely still be in debt due to living expenses. But that's something we all have to come to terms with and choose for ourselves.
As for me, I'm almost finished my first year of University. I was accepted into an extremely competitive program in my fave city in Ontario. 10k of debt later, I realized it was not for me. And that's okay. Taking a year off, working towards paying off the loan, and will consider going back to school to study something more practical ... this time with support.
|. on Feb 29, 2016 @ 02:35 pm|
I'm not sure what I said to either of you to lash out at me? I'm making a general comment that in order to receive these government programs for low income families you have to be seriously LOW income. My point is although I'm not technically low income according to their numbers I still struggle to make ends meet too. And I work hard for what I have. But I and other middle class familes DO struggle and would benefit from these options as well. I DO very much struggle and have difficulties paying bills and making sure there's food on the table aND a roof over my family's head. you should not assume I don't. But I also work damn hard to get what I have.
Writing, as opposed to speaking in person, can be difficult because you can take something the wrong way or think there's a negative tone when there isn't. And I think that's what happened here in order for both of you to make those comments. In Canada you can attend uni for free after age 65. That's why I said I'm going to wait until 65 because I'll never be able to afford it!
And perhaps you shouldn't jump to the conclusion that middle class don't struggle. I am ALL FOR THIS INITIATIVE. I fully support it. Education is extremely expensive. Nowhere did I say otherwise. I'm not at all complaining that in my university days I didn't have this help. I came out with debt like everyone else. I think, again, this is fantastic. And I also stick to my comment that middle and lower class have a lot of struggles. I struggled to work and pay daycare and at the end of the day it didn't even seem worth it financially to work after the high cost of daycare. The rich get richer. There just isn't the same help for anyone other than super low income and that means we all struggle. I didon't make ANY comment about criminals. I think it's pathetic that taxpayers have to pay for them to live and the cost of keeping them housed, clothed, fed. In fact, I believe that money is better spent on seniors who are living in poverty. I made no negative comment about our youth. I have a 20 year old and I hope she can benefit from initiatives like this. And my son, who is 8. Don't jump to conclusions about a simple comment I made about me having to wait until I'm 65 before I can afford to go back to school.
So hopefully that clears up whatever you think I was b itching about...and hopefully before you accuse me of something you'll make sure you know what I'm actually saying. This was not cool chicks. And also my very first negative experience in this forum.
|@idellepalme on Feb 29, 2016 @ 02:41 pm|
Thanks for sharing the number for what is classed as low income.
|. on Feb 29, 2016 @ 03:37 pm|
This is interesting. It could be really good. I think that in this economy, middle class struggles too which mortgage, their own student debt, raising kids(school fees, clothes, shoes, swimming etc)car payments, insurance payments, gas, utilities, property taxes, pets, Blue Cross, extra unforeseen expenses, saving for a rainy day...the list goes on. Even if a family makes 50-100k net, after taxes and paying all the above, you are not left with tons for saving for retirement and children's university. I think it would be amazing to offer 50% off to all families making under 100k net. Also, just because a family is in a certain tax bracket, it does NOT mean that they will pay their children's tuition. I've known of a few families that certainly could've afforded to pay their kids university but refused, they wanted the kid to do it themselves, learn a lesson.
Da Luv Bug - seriously? Not only was it very difficult to read your post due to nonsensical run on sentences, you brought up things that were not even mentioned in the original post.
I do NOT think this should be given to people who plan on taking an impractical course. If you want to take courses just because they're interesting and won't get you any sort of relatable career, do it on your own dime. I think it should be limited to useful courses.
Greekbymarriage - sorry some people on here are ignorant and say ridiculous unrelated things. You've brought up a very interesting topic. And I've often wondered why some European countries have managed to offer such things to their post secondary students but Canada isn't at all. Everyone wins when your citizens are well educated either at a university or trade school. It should be open to both university and trades I think.