on Nov 10, 2011 @ 10:58 am|
I'm sure most of you have heard of the horrifying scandal at Pennsylvania State University ("Penn State") - if you haven't, just tune into any of the US media outlets like CNN or MSN for the latest details.
Basically, one of the athletic coaches is alleged to have sexually abused, even raped some young boys who attended Penn State's young athlete camps. I hear these were at-risk kids (many from fatherless homes, etc).
This alleged abuse was witnessed by other Penn State staff members and reported up the chain of command but no action was taken. By law, they are actually required to report such actions, even if unproven, to the police for investigation.
The alleged rapist was dismissed and is now under police investigation, but yesterday Penn State also fired other members of the coaching staff including legendary head coach Joe Paterno and the head of the university itself for failing to disclose these allegations to the police, failing to remove the staff member accused - basically failing to act in any meaningful way.
Some Penn State students and other fans are now rioting out of anger that Paterno was fired. I personally am shocked! I think there is no crime more heinous than the rape of a child, but covering it up is almost as bad. Think of the kids who might have been spared if this had been dealt with immediately!
What do you guys think? Was the firing justified? Is the fan reaction justified?
|Justified! on Nov 10, 2011 @ 11:18 am|
As an adult, we have the responsibility to report things like this!
Especially as someone who is clearly respected by the public! I would continue to look up to that person if I knew they were helping keep children safe and protect them from abuse.
I think it is absolutely disgusting that this was overlooked by everyone who knew about it, and believe they all deserved to lose their jobs.
Unfortunately I think most of the rioters are just concerned about losing a coach, and not about these poor children who have to live with this hurt the rest of their lives.
Sometimes this world makes absolutely no sense to me, but we should use this as motivation to continue to do good in our communities and enourage others to as well. We can't fix everything, or prevent everything, but we can try!
|It make's me sick!!! on Nov 10, 2011 @ 12:29 pm|
I don't care who he is, or how great of a coach this guy is, he should
have opened his mouth right away! God knows how many other boys have
been abused by this man since then and it all could have stopped right
then and there if he only would have had the guts to say something. Just
think of how that poor boy felt after know this coach saw this guy
raping him and in stead of helping he just walked away. Its crazy to
think anyone would leave that poor boy like that and then not say a word
about it. I think these student and so called fans that are rioting
need to take a step back and think about what's really going on here.
You can bet if it was one of their loved one this guy hurt so badly and
they found out it could have bin stopped years ago, they'd feel a whole
lot differently! They both should go to jail as far as I'm concerned!!!
|football fever on Nov 10, 2011 @ 12:59 pm|
As you guys pointed out, it's all about the football to these fans, not what is the right thing to do. That's sad. We're talking about 40 counts against the alleged rapist over some 15 years. Think about all the kids who could have been spared if the first incidence had been reported!
They are now investigating who said what to whom, but you know what it boils down to for me? If I reported something I saw to my boss (and he reported up the chain) but nothing ended up happening, I would march down to the police station and made sure that they found out. I don't care if they did report it - where was the follow up? Who was looking out for those poor boys? Even if I wasn't 100% sure of the truth of the claims, I would still put myself and my job on the line for the protection of those little kids.
|Unbelievable! on Nov 10, 2011 @ 01:05 pm|
You really need to think about the crime that was committed- it really is a heinous crime and to justify letting him off the hook all these years over something like football is really disgusting! I can't believe anyone would argue with a firing and conviction like this- I don't get that at all!
I also heard about the Ashton Kutcher tweeting incident- as soon as he heard about the incident he tweeted that he thought the firing was ridiculous- however he hadn't heard why he was fired. As a result, he has decided to hand over a lot of his tweeting responsibilities to his publicists. Full story here.
|Terrible on Nov 10, 2011 @ 01:20 pm|
That is insane. It's unbelievable how seriously football is taken down there. So closed minded. I'm quite sure we can all agree that the emotional/psychological well-being of these boys affected are MUCH more important than a pervert coach. What is wrong with people these days?
The bottom line is not only was it preventable, had the reporting of the initial incidents led to disciplinary action being carried out, but it's just the same as when someone tells you they're going to commit suicide/murder. You are legally obligated to inform authorities. I wonder if anyone ever went directly to the police (I'd guess no)? Or did they really go to the police who also failed to act? Either way, such a sick and scary situation.
|So disheartening.. on Nov 10, 2011 @ 01:20 pm|
This incident is so disgusting. There is nothing in this world that would make me turn a blind eye to the rapes, molestation of children. And I agree completely mamaluv, I report it all the way through. I don't care if I lost my job, we need to take personal responsibility and stop this kind of abuse as we see it. I think he should be charged as well as the predator for knowing about it all and doing nothing. The fact that some football fans care more about the games than these lives affected is so sickening...
|mamaluv on Nov 10, 2011 @ 01:25 pm|
I am right there with you on that, no job is worth these poor kids going
through all of this and for so many years! I have a feeling a lot more
is going to be coming out over the next little while. I feel so bad for
these kids and who knows how many he may have done this to even before
the coach saw this first boy. I'm sure he wasn't his first! These
sickening people don't just wake up one day and say I think I'm going to
rap a little boy today. It happens over many many years. He may have even done
this to his own family members and to both boy's and girl's. When I first
saw this on the news I was sick to my stomach and I still am. I have no
use for people like this and they sure would want me near them when it
comes time for their punishment. Jails to good for them!!
|Father of psu grad on Nov 13, 2011 @ 12:08 pm|
what happeed at psu is a tragedy from all sides paterino did what was required by law and followed the chain of command even though it sickened him,but our laws are so screwed up if you saw a murder would you worry about the chain of command , yet these children were murdered emotionaly spiritually and mentally.Our laws need to change!!!!
instead of sending all these comments about how sick this makes you feel do something
about it call your state reps and demand they pass legislation imedately requireing if someone
sees or suspects this tye of abuse is going on the first call or contact should be the police without fear of not observing some stupid chain of command. by laws of psu chain of command Paternio did his job he tried to follow their stupid laws.By the letter of the law
he did no wrong by morality and conchince he he failed everyone ! AGAIN THE LAWS MUST